Green vs. Titled Dog For K9 work?

Here is the question:
What is more useful for K9 Officers: a green dog with obedience/protection training but not titled or a titled dog? From what I have been researching on the subject green dogs tend to be more flexible and able to problem solve better in different scenarios whereas the titled dog may be locked into behaviors due to compulsion training. On the other hand titled dogs are trained and courage tested. So, what is your opinion? This will help me greatly, because I will get a sense of what you want in a dog. If a green dog what training besides obedience/protection would be helpful. If a titled dog, what kind of title do you want to work with: schutzhund, KNVP, ring sports, IPO, European sport titles?
Thanks. Brenda

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Comment by Brenda Day on January 22, 2009 at 4:44am: Hi:
Sounds like I should have a range of dogs. Some titled and some green. Are these KNPV dogs Holland Imports? I will be importing adult Belgian Malinois. I'm not at that stage yet, but am gathering information on all aspects of this venture. Believe me, there is a lot to learn in so many different areas. Learning about the business end of things is a real eye opener. Thanks for your comment it is apppreciated and useful. Brenda

Comment by Maximum K9 on January 21, 2009 at 9:56pm: For me, its easier to train a titled dog to do police work than to start from the ground up. Yes, there will besome issues,especially for Schutzhund dogs. I think titled dogs save you more money because it usually takes less time to tweak them for American police work than to start from ground zero. A good testing process should help you make up your mind as to which dogs will suit your needs. I'm extremely fond of KNPV dogs (Holland). Usually are high drive dogs and bite anywhere on the body.

Comment by Brenda Day on December 27, 2008 at 12:40pm: Thank you Phil. This helps me a lot. Happy New Year! (by the way, the dog kennel site did not work out as there were train tracts 20 feet from the house and would be kennel area. Just couldn't risk an accident.)

Comment by Phil Dodson on December 27, 2008 at 10:35am: > This is exactly what I do. I conduct all my tests prior to handing him or her over to the new handler. I also conduct a test by taking the dog to Wal-Mart to observe his actions around lots of people doors opening closing and heavy vehicle traffic.

> Although I teach a limited amount of obedience to my detector dogs, heel, sit, down, come, I demand it be as perfect as possible for obvious reasons!

Comment by Brenda Day on December 26, 2008 at 10:11am: Thanks Torsten, I have a lead on a kennel site. Things are moving along! Happy Holidays to you! Brenda

Comment by Torsten on December 26, 2008 at 7:05am: u will have better reults because the dog is allready trained in basic and then get a diamant at the handler sorry for my explaining becaus i talk better than i write happy hollidays

Comment by Brenda Day on December 26, 2008 at 6:08am: Thank you Torsten, I understand what you mean. Pre-training of the detection dog to test if good detection candidate and then train with the handler.

Comment by Torsten on December 26, 2008 at 3:22am: I think it depend on what u looking for. Protecktion dogs u should take a basik trained dog with obidiance and bite work at least basiks. For detection i coose only green dogs they only have a amacing high play drive. The detection dogs with obidiance comes with the handler who will get the dog and train with the dog in the future. I mean i train the detection dog till a good basic knowlige and then i start training the handler with the dog to get together as a team so the bound of handler and dog gets closer and the obidiance comes from itselfe because of the handler and the dog getting together as a team.I do not like to train dogs to hand them over only with a short periot of training and then leave. it is nessesary to see how handler and dog work together